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Nikon MX picture (warning: tiny picture)

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I have one small picture of what I believe could be the next Nikon MX camera.
Here it is - the first one on the left (for comparison purposes I added pictures of Nikon D3 prototype, real Nikon D3, D700 and Nikon F6 to the right):
The size of the prism and the mount on that "thing" appears to be way bigger than the other full frame Nikon models. I am working on getting a high resolution picture which will hopefully reveal more details.
Here is full picture of the Nikon D3 prototype - you can clearly see the difference in the prism size:
Disclaimer: this could be an old Nikon prototype or may not be related at all to Nikon MX. It could be Nikon D4, Nikon D800, Nikon F7, it could be an UFO, the next Canon with a Nikon label, whatever. I don't know for sure. I can only assure you that it's not fake. The source is very reliable. That's all I got for now.
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  • Blog Admin

    It’s all speculations at that point, but the mount does look wider… or I am blind

  • blind

    Can’t see the pics!

  • http://www.rumleskafte.com Rumle

    this is a consept drawing of a D3, its kinda old.

  • Max

    The mirror size looks exactly the same to me.

  • Blog Admin

    The second one is the D3 prototype

  • Blog Admin

    I can see them fine on Safari – it must an IE problem – I am working on it.

  • Douglas

    the mirror does look slightly bigger, but i really dont see how that is possible, if you look into a D3 without a lens, the mirror pretty much takes up corner to corner on the opening. so unless they widened the lens mount, i dont see how they could enlarge the mirror assembly, let alone the sensor assembly…

  • Douglas

    i think that is an optical illusion because personally it the image physically looks closer making the mount “look” bigger.

  • Blog Admin

    I did not mean to create an optical illusion – it could be jut my crop. How about the prism?

  • john

    for gods sake, this is an artist impression. Artists don’t draw to scale.

  • Blog Admin

    Look at the D3 prototype – the second image from the left. Does this look off scale to you?

  • http://antonio.rojilla.com Antonio Rojilla

    That is just a really old F6 concept by Giugiaro. You can see it in their page (Italdesing). Regards.

  • http://www.rodrigorivas.com Rodrigo Rivas
  • http://www.texelimages.nl Wannes

    Doubt it, wouldn’t expect a prism,
    so the ‘head’ is way to big.

  • Bryce

    I’d love to agree with you but there is no F6 listed if you do a search. only up to F5 and then after that is an RS.

    You can however see that image on the main screen. It’s a curious thing for sure.

  • Bryce

    Hey I just noticed that the pipeline&processing for the D3 is ALL 16bit except for the A/D conversion….

    Logic points to an MX camera with a 16bit A/D to match the 16bit pipe&processing.

  • http://picasaweb.google.com/Alain2x Alain2x

    Lens mount looks bigger than usual Nikon by 1/4″
    This would suppose a totally new range of optics, like Leica S2.
    Is Nikon ready for this, knowing that they have great difficulties to produce lenses that are at their catalogue ?

  • http://picasaweb.google.com/Alain2x Alain2x

    This lens mount looks bigger than the original F nikon mount by a 1/4″
    Is Nikon willing to produce a complete range of lenses, now that they can’t produce what they have in catalogue ?

  • Alain2x

    Sorry for the twin comment !
    Wrong keyboarding :(

  • Douglas

    you are definatly right about the prism, it looks sizeably bigger than the D3 it might be intresting to see if they can use the “Micro 4/3rds concept to make the sensor slightly larger by moving it foreward in the body, im not completely sure how it would work with changing the focus of lenses as im not completely sure how Micro 4/3rds works with exhisting lenses either without a tweak to them…

  • cameron

    this is D2 / D200 prototype…

    http://farm1.static.flickr.com/96/210782767_7445384382.jpg

    looks really cool :D

  • hulk

    I am confused : wasn’t Otoji supposed to be a mirrorless design?

  • NikonFaan

    prototype of D3,Also I saw this picture in Japanese camera magagine.

    Nikon make 4~5 prototype for every new cameras.And choice and buildup.

  • E

    If you think about it, that body would have to be larger than the D3. The lens mount takes up more than of the body on this new design, and the mirror is larger relative to the body

    That is one large sensor

    I think this could do one of two things for nikon

    1) Push them over the top, no other manufacturer had done this (two platforms digital)save Leica, who is just too expensive.
    They could make tons off it

    2) This could fall flat, and, depending on how much Nikon invests in this (assuming failure) it could really hurt them, bad.

    All this is assuming, off course, that the durn thing exists

  • http://antonio.rojilla.com Antonio Rojilla

    Well, I don’t nknow if they list the F6 or not, but it is a Giugiaro design. In this image you can see some steps in the design process:

    What it is shown in this post as -possibly- the MX concept, or any other new Nikon concept, is the design you can see in the middle, just between the a first concept and the final body.

    I know all this because I still remember how I felt in love with that design the first time I saw it… I loved those “straight curves”! :)

    Regards.

  • http://www.photohumourist.com Photohumourist

    I cannot see Nikon making a pointy, sharp edged hand grip like that. Looks very uncomfortable.

  • http://antonio.rojilla.com Antonio Rojilla

    Ops! This site doesn’t let you directly embed images (at least using the img tag, maybe there is another way), so please click here:

    http://apphotnum.free.fr/images/F6-design.jpg“>Link”>http://apphotnum.free.fr/images/F6-design.jpg“>Link to image

    Or here if the ‘a’ tag doesn’t work:

    http://apphotnum.free.fr/images/F6-design.jpg

    Regards.

  • Photar

    Left image has been on the Giugiaro site for a long time already, from way before the D3 introduction.

    The prism appears to be larger because it starts way closer to the lens mount than on a D3 (and would probably mean incompatibility with the new TS-lenses). The top of the D3 body (where the top-display sits) is higher measured from lens mount than “the prototype”. Superimposing the pictures (matched to scale by the mount) shows that the D3 actually has a larger/higher prism.

    The missing DOF/Custom function button (D3 has two buttons) is also a hint to the time this prototype was drawn.

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  • cartman

    You don’t think they’ll still be using the FX lens mount for a larger sensor do you? I fully expect a new mount and lens line with a sensor size in between FX and traditional MF.

    Anyway, it looks a lot like the Leica S2.

  • Cartman

    Yes, the picture is the same. Can we be s[ure their design work was for an older design and this is not something new? [Insert emoticon with fingers crossed]

  • Photar

    Well, this image at least does not give rise to an all new lens mount; it still has the traditional focus screw. Really hope they’d drop that in an “all new” mount and go directly for all AF-S focussing.

    Also keep in mind that the lens mount diameter itself is not a limit for the format/imaging circle of a lens. I.e. a Schneider 4.5/80XL has a 43mm mount size (smaller than Nikon F) and an image circle covering 5×7″ (that’s large format, not even medium).

  • Dan

    If this is not an old prototype (it could almost be a radical early F5 prototype, with that big prism – since the F5′s was removable, it was also big to make room for the finder mount), we’ve learned two things. First, it uses a 3:2 sensor (that’s no square under there, nor even a 4:3 MF-type sensor!), and second, it’s a conventional SLR, rather than a radical electronic rangefinder. Both of these things would seem unlikely to change this late in the design process (if they’re really planning to release this in March), so if this IS the MX, we’re looking at a very similar concept to the Leica S2…

  • Cartman

    Well sure, a Kodak Brownie had a teeny little hole; but the film plane was way back there and the thing was a big box.

  • Alex

    The missing DOF/Custom Function button is a clue…that this design is probably ancient. The last pro camera from Nikon with only one button was the D1 series. And if you look at the lines on the prism it resembles the F6 prism. And the lines around the lens mount resemble the F6. I say old prototype.

  • Blog Admin

    Otoji and MX could be two different things. In addition at some point we got a message that Otoji was canceled.

  • Daniel

    Whooo
    That url seems really interesting.
    The older Nikon prototype designs on that site looks different.
    Does anyone know more than this?

  • http://www.slrclub.com Z3000

    The missing DOF/Custom Function button is a clue…that this design is probably ancient. The last pro camera from Nikon with only one button was the D1 series. And if you look at the lines on the prism it resembles the F6 prism. And the lines around the lens mount resemble the F6. I say old prototype.(2)

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan (updated)

    Update: the ad says “Big” in Japanese. My first D700 picture was… weird and I updated it. I will create a different post for that story.Is it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor: The new Nikon 50mm f/1.4G AF-S Auto Focus Nikkor Lens now available for pre-order …

  • Blog Admin

    those prototypes look different than the one in the post

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan

    Update: the ad says “Big” in JapaneseIs it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor:Up to $90 Back on Tamron Lenses …

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan

    Update: the ad says “Big” in Japanese.Is it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor:Up to $90 Back on Tamron Lenses …

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan

    Update: the ad says “Big” in Japanese. My first D700 picture was… weird and I updated it. I will create a different post for that story.Is it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor:Up to $90 Back on Tamron Lenses …

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan

    Update: the ad says “Big” in Japanese. My first D700 picture was… weird and I updated it. I will create a different post for that story.Is it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor:Up to $90 Back on Tamron Lenses …

  • http://nikonrumors.com/2008/09/30/new-nikon-ad-from-japan.aspx Nikon Rumors

    New Nikon ad from Japan (updated)

    Update: the ad says “Big” in Japanese. My first D700 picture was… weird and I updated it. I will create a different post for that story.Is it just me again, or this mount looks to big? Can anyone translate the text?My observation is that the red grip and the mount are different from the current full frame Nikon D700 and D3 models:What say you?Sponsor:Up to $90 Back on Tamron Lenses …

  • bean

    more likely to be a prototype of a D3X.
    the picture just say much since you don’t know the scale of each individual camera (or rather you know the scale differs between them) so it might even be a D400, with higher spec, bigger prism than the D300 etc. etc. etc.

  • Anthony Tang

    For MX format, the sensor is a square, It is foolish to have a vertical grip!

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