Update: this rumor got busted! The source admitted that it was a hoax (he got banned from this blog already). There was not much I could do – this is a rumor site after all and if you read the comments to this post, you will find out that this was not such a crazy idea.
The rumor of the year:
“Nikon will have a new Firmware ready that will upgrade all existing D3’s to 24.4 megapixels. The 24.4 megapixels Sensor sits in the D3 since day one. Nikon worked hard on the software to get identical files (quality wise) out of the 24.4 MP like the existing D3 files. The other reason for the release of the D3 with 12.1 MP was a contract with the sensor manufacturer (Sony).
There will be a Desk at Nikon’s Photokina Booth where visitors who bring along the D3 can get the update immediately! The Firmware will be available AT NO COST after Photokina @ Nikon Homepage.”
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HAHAHA! That’s awesome. I mean, I see how they could take the higher megapixel sensor and take a reading on 4 pixels to lower noise and better light reading… but would they? I’d venture a big no. People like big numbers like 24. Would this rumor also pertain to the D700?
Would anyone with a D3 like to take a flashlight and magnifying glass and count the pixels on their sensor?
really now?
Oh, come on. This is the most fake rumor of all. If it is real, then what is this? D1x style or Fuji style interpolation? No thanks.
You want how much for the Brooklyn Bridge?
How would Nikon make money if they did that?
OH PLEASE! nikon designed their own sensors for d3, d300 and d700… not sony… you can get 30mp files from a d40 or d50 in photoshop ACR
Although I doubt it… it would be pretty cool if it happened.
What is more likely is reduced price for a sensor upgrade or a guaranteed part exchange price for current D3 owners to the 24 megapixel D3X ( D4 ) .
The sensor upgrade would account for the “modular” rumours of late.
As the D700 uses the same sensor as the D3 the rumour is equally unlikely for that too .
Nice rumour though
Then this will also be possible for the D700?
OMG! any Owner of the D3 are so lucky!~~ 24MP thanks nikon!!! Wo0WoW!!
All there cameras will be covered ..
D40/50/60 up to 12 megapixels
D80/200 up to 16 megapixels
D300 up to 18 megapixels
D3/700 up to 24 megapixels
WOW… I mean wow… I bought the D700 instead of the D3 because of the difference in the noise, this could change everything, if it were only not a rumor
This website is loosing credibility by the minute…
Technically is really possible why not, and would also make sense, why there is such a good High ISO. Also makes sense why it’s called D3 not D3H. But I really doubt because of the profit of Nikon
Is this a dream? If it is true, than I am glad I stick with Nikon D3!
I agree…
You guys are soooooo funny!
- I e-maild this message 10:43 AM to pz@nikonrumors.com
- 10:54 AM the admin Publish the “news” as BIG in Red Letters!!!!
again soooo funny you guys!
so much on credibility of those rumor sites HA HA HA !!!!
This is the most ridiculous rumor I’ve ever heard. I actually came here to advise you to stop writing about all the small, rubbish like rumors. Keep it simple, or lose whatever credibility you have.
That seems more plausible, taking the existing cameras and upgrading the sensor. Sort of like the buffer upgrade during the D1X days, sounds interesting.
what a crap
nikonrumors admin had too much sake yesterday
This delirium!!! Sensors in D3/D700 – this is an own development Nikon…
http://www.bythom.com/currentdslr.htm
The Nikon D700 works with the same sensor as the D3. Does this rumor mean that the D700 will also have 24 MP from now on?
Please remember that few months ago, the first D3 firmware update (1.10) included some lines codes with 24,4MP and was supposed to be at that time a sort of introduction for the next resolution of the D3x -> http://www.crunchgear.com/2008/04/15/nikon-updates-d3-firmware-244-megapixel-d3x-revealed/
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&thread=27581087
why not bring out a 24mp nikon which can “step down” to 12 for low-light-performance
That’s something I would call MODULAR 
mind telling us how/why it was busted???? seems like half these posts are bullshit to drive ad revenue.
I agree… if it was busted that darn fast why post in the first place and make all of us who actually said something to someone else look like total idiots? Better yet, how about Nikon releasing some official info.
I believe there are a number of people playing with this website to get rumors “Publish” just for fun.
Wow, there’s been a lot of bogus stuff on this site. First the endless Ouiji posts and now something as rediculous as this.
Does the admin even own Nikon gear? Basic fact check would indicate they make their own sensors, which should be obvious, they are one of the biggest DSLR players out there!
Well e have to take into consideration all rumors no matter how ridiculous, you never know what may turn out to be true…
Increase MP not Increase noise?
So much nacking on the admin – everything seems obvious if you know it! This site is for presenting and unfortunately sometimes busting rumurs. If you cannot take fakes, then wait for the official anouncment!
If admin did not own Nikon gear he would probably not use all his time running this site. I want to thank the admin for keeping the site running – and for speading both impressive (aka the early d700) and more humerous rumours…
A lot of DX sensors are in fact Sony sensors. I don’t know if the D3 sensor is a Sony sensor too. BUt it is possible.
OF COURSE it was a hoax. It made zero sense economically for Nikon. I can’t believe it got posted in the first place.
Part of this is true in a twisted sort of way. If infact Nikon does release a D3x with 24.4 MP, it will have a DX crop mode of a bout 12 mp. So in a weird backwards way, this busted rumor will prove true. But Nikon is all about making money. And from that fact alone, they would not have done a; “suprise! Free 24mp for D3 buyers!” That would piss a lot of people off anyway, knowing that they had the option of 24 mps for a year, but it was kept under wraps. Fun and imaginative rumor, but I agree that the rumors are becoming so diluted that I’m not finding any value in the ones that might be proved real. Too much “crying wolf”.
That would be same as shooting at 24MP and applying so much noise reduction that the image would be soft at 24MP, but OK when downsampled to 12MP.
That’s also the reason I find it funny when Ken R. says that more MP are useless. If a D60 has the same low ISO performance as the D40 at 100% zoom, there is still more room for noise reduction with the D60 for a given target resolution.
The only thing I wonder is why a Firmware of D3 would include lines containing code for 24MP resolution.
It is an experimental body out there? (sounds like a movie… but could be)
Or what for? just to get curiosity of people? (don’t think so, maybe they didn’t even suppose someone was going to find those codes, or maybe yes, but in such case I don’t think Nikon would do something just to have attention and speculation)
So… what about that firmware?
Weird to me…
Theres nothing wrong with a bit of humour and I imangine everyone with a D3 knows this could not be true .
I feel in the lack of any real-news it is better to have a little fun
I just got the domain. nikonrumorbuster.com
I think you will find the Ouiji to be substantiated after march 2009 ( possible with confirmation at photokina next week ) .. the details/rumours coming out may be a little off but the MX side will be true
Despite Nikon wouldn’t earn anything updating from 12MP to 24MP to the current owners, that could drive more customers to buy it.
Would be really amazing to have these option in the D3/D700 at the moment of taking a picture:
A – 12MP sensor quality (with the great quality alreadiy known)
B – 24MP sensor quality
(BTW I would like to make the list of features I would like to have on a DSLR..
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There has been serious evidence the last two weeks that the admin does not own any Nikon gear or has a serious lack of familiarity with Nikon gear. Anyone who puts up 70-200VR out of stock as a point of speculation does not know the Nikon marketplace. Hopefully it continues. The faster it will be to bust this fraud and end his ad revenue stream.
This is a COMPLETELY retarded post.
according to Thom Hogans the D3/D700 has a Nikon sensor:
http://www.bythom.com/currentdslr.htm
but would be nice to have the exact specs, although I didn’t find it
1. Check out 16-9.net and see how wonderfully the recent Nikon lenses perform on the 21.1MP 1DsIII sensor. Nothing is mussy all to the corners.
2. The DX crop of a 24.4MP FX sensor is 24.4/(1.5*1.5)=10.84MP not 12MP. High school math?
3. Some one please pointing your microscope to an open D3/D700 sensor to checkout the microlens configuration and density to give us the definitive answer?
Downsize the A900 RAW file (with the ACR candidate Adobe released yesterday) to the 12.1MP D3 file size you will see the noise performance is identical if not better. See posts in the dpreview Sony SLR forum.
I think this is wishful thinking. when the 3G iphone was about to come out, there were a lot of rumors going around that the exiting 2G phones would be firmware upgradeable to 3G…
These companies want you to keep buying their products.
Seems unlikely.
It took you this long to figure that out?
You should take that off!!!
LOL
Remember Nikon did exactly this binding down the actual sensor resolution for low noise game before with the D1 series:
http://www.lonestardigital.com/techcorner.htm
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=4413078
so that the rumor is not that outrageous at all.
Why all the criticism re: the admin? This is a rumor site. A rumor is something which isn’t 100%. Some are more likely, some less. If the admin said this one was a sure thing, then I could understand the negative comments.
I too maintain a rumor site. Mine is a new site, and I won’t use this space to promote it. I will mention, though, that I recently Publish an anonymous tip that is looking like it was B.S. So it goes.
If you don’t like rumors, then don’t go to a rumor site!
-Amin
well, after reading the page:
http://www.lonestardigital.com/techcorner.htm
I don’t believe it’s completely impossible to have a surprise inside the D3/D700, that would give sense to the firmware’s coding of 24MP
The question is (assuming the sensor is more than just 12MP) if it could be possible to switch between 12 and 24MP of resolution with only a firmware update, and if that switch keeps the actual 12MP signal-to-noise ratio (when shooting 12MP images) or it would simply lower the resolution with 24MP’s noise levels.
- Whould be impressive to have the ability to shoot a 12MP image with 12MP-like noise level, and the option to shoot 24MP images (with its respective higher noise level), both toghether in the same camera, at the choice of the photographer…
well, after reading the page:
http://www.lonestardigital.com/techcorner.htm
I don’t believe it’s completely impossible to have a surprise inside the D3/D700, that would give sense to the firmware’s coding of 24MP
(many people should learn to be more cautious before speaking or laughing about others. To criticize is always easier..)
The question is (assuming the sensor is more than just 12MP) if it could be possible to switch between 12 and 24MP of resolution with only a firmware update, and if that switch keeps the actual 12MP signal-to-noise ratio (when shooting 12MP images) or it would simply lower the resolution with 24MP’s noise levels.
- Whould be impressive to have the ability to shoot a 12MP image with 12MP-like noise level, and the option to shoot 24MP images (with its respective higher noise level), both toghether in the same camera, at the choice of the photographer…
More references here, with two quotes below:
http://photo.net/nikon-camera-forum/00KO1h
“the D1X was built basically on the same sensor as the D1. While the D1 was officially a 2,7 MP Camera, it consisted of a a 10MP sensor, where 4 photosites were logically bound together to reduce noise. You might remember the rectangular pixels of the D1X, achieving 5,4 MP natively and interpolated to a more useful pixelmatrix (3008×1960). The 10MP option is available in Nikon Capture and does nothing else than saving the true physical layout of the D1X sensor in your file. What is the cost for this? Besides more size, you might encounter eventually more noise.”
“I wouldn’t dismiss the answers as “nonsense”. It is a fact that D1X had rectangular pixels (presumably obtained from combining 2 of the 1×4 subpixels per photosite in the D1 imager). So the native resolution of D1X is 4032 x 1312 pixels (give or take a few pixels, this depends on the actual raw converter). However, the geometry wasn’t what imaging software would expect because each recorded pixel represented twice the size along the vertical(short) axis compared to the horizontal (long) axis of hte imager. Hence you had to do some spatial rearrangement of the pixel data so the pixels would map into the usual square grid. Originally, Nikon did this by throwing away actual data from the horizontal axis to arrive at estimated data points on the the vertical axis. Suffices to say that this wasn’t optimal use of the recorded data, since you lost details which in fact were picked up by the imager. The trick of using the full native resolution along the horizontal axis and interpolating along the vertical axis was introduced by third-party vendors very early after the launch of D1x (QImage and Bibble were the first if memory serves me), and Nikon hesitated for a while in following suit. Eventually Nikon Capture offered a 10 MPix mode for opening NEF files from the D1x.
The interpolation needed to remap the pixels presumably was what gave the D1x its much acclaimed “film-like” image quality.”
Thanks – some people do understand the meaning of the word “Rumor” others don’t and no one can change that. No matter what you do, you cannot escape critique. I can leave with it.
Thanks!
Lolll
I’ll keep the 10-1000 f2 free lens (included) and remote weather control
I have to admit my list wasn’t so creative
You guys will believe anything. I never believed this one because it was so absurd. This is along the lines of “car uses no gas and generates electricity back into the power grid.”
Also remembered Nikon had never made it clear what exactly does the “double micro lens” design mean.
“A senior Nikon spokesman went as far to indicate that Nikon were using gap-less, double micro lens technology on the Nikon D3.”
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=27285&pid=217259&st=100&#entry217259
This one was busted, and it was a hard one to swallow, but…
it’s been done before!
Fully plausible!
Bon’t down on the admin, it was a fully plausable rumer.
Thanks for the support!
I LOVE this rumor. It’s like a thriller with a twist — you know something’s coming, but what could it be?… And then WHAM! Bruce Willis was dead all along; the injured cop is really Hannibal Lecter; the call is coming from INSIDE the house.
We’re all looking around for a D3X and it turns out we’ve owned them for a year!
Of course, it’s not true, but that’s beside the point.
I agree Floyd ..sometimes people let the truth get in the way of a good rumour .-)
Wow, some one bothered to let Dan at maxmax.com to remove the AA filter from his D3, and found the gain of sharpness is only minimal:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1021&thread=29423041&page=1
this means the D3/D700 “look” is not from a strong AA filter, so it actually support the rumor that they actually have the Sony’s 24MP sensor in them and the 12MP out put are from some smart convolution of the pixels — Nikon did such binning game before but this is far more likely than the D1x scheme.
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