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Gone Baby Gone again – this time is the AF 85mm f/1.4D IF


Remember this post? The D80 disappeared from some Nikon web sites three days before the D90 was announced.

Well, I have some news for you (thank you I.) - AF 85mm f/1.4D IF is gone in Australia:
 

 

it's even listed as "out of production, discontinued or no longer available in your country" - here is the link:
 

 

In case Nikon makes any changes, here is the screenshot:
 

There was also a "typo" in a magazine ad few weeks ago for the exact same lens.
Just to remind our fans that this blog is a collaborative effort from readers around the world - I am just putting the pieces together (and sometimes have some rumors on my own). I get a lot of thank you emails, but the biggest  "thank you" should go to our readers that keep an eye on every step Nikon makes. This post is a good example of what I am trying to say. Thanks!
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  • http://www.jphotog.com Eric

    It’s about time this lens is being replaced. All Nikon’s lenses need to go AF-S and this is a critical one. That and the 35mm 1.4 needs a complete update too.

  • red

    hmmm interesting. I hope it’s a sign the a new AF-S 85/1.4G ED IF will come soon. probably it is the ‘Big’ thing that would be announced on sept 3rd?

  • red

    yeah, hopefully not just AF-S 85/1.4 but also 35/1.4 and 50/1.4 and next year 105/2 and 135/2. that way nikon lens line up will be awesome!

  • http://www.peterlombardi.com Peter Lombardi

    I wouldn’t mind a new 28/1.4 added to round out that list either.

    But that would be just to perfect wouldn’t it… hmmm.
    -peter

  • http://www.jphotog.com Eric

    Yep, a 28mm 1.4 would be outstanding, if that’s their only fast wide prime. But I think I’d prefer a 24 1.4 to match a 35mm 1.4.

  • BG

    Interesting. :)

  • rich

    a 28/1.4 makes no sense really. its only a tiny bit wider FOV than the 35. neither does the 105/2. there is already a 105/2.8 and an 85/1.4. the 135/2 is a much better option.

    nikon should forget develpment of new primes for 12-18mnths and simply update the existing primes FIRST. the glass is fine and performs well enuf. they simply need AF-S SWM and they’re gold.

    no way nikon can produce new bodies AND new primes AND new zooms all within 12-18 months. if they do; be prepared for major QC issues.

  • Chris P

    Given the rumours about the new 50mm f1.4 which have already appeared, the logical announcement would now seem to be 28, 50 and 85 f1.4 AF-S lenses

  • rhlpetrus

    I think a lens(es) announcement could happen now, right in the heels of D90′s announcement, but not of a new camera.

  • JJ

    Gels nicely with Warehouse Express thinking that the 85mm/f1.4 was “NEW!” a week or so back.
    Does anyone think that an all AF-s line-up of lenses point to a pro body with no internal focussing motor?

  • rich

    no.

  • Marc

    I don’t care for an AF-S 85mm. I do not have any AF-S lenses and I’m fine with that. I don’t want to pay more just because of AF-S! If there is nano coating, ok, but please add more than AF-S!

    Any one wanna sell their “old” 85mm 1.4D?

  • Blog Admin

    dead link – can’t see any old news

  • Anonymous

    The link is alive.
    Try the second hyperlink posted (without trailing ‘>’)

  • Anonymous

    Looks like old news to me.

  • http://www.jphotog.com Eric

    Nikon would have no problem developing lenses and bodies at the same time. Optical engineering is completely different than developing bodies.

    They had better start producing some fast primes. That is the weakest part of their lens lineups. How many more entry-level lenses do they need? THey certainly don’t need another zoom between 18 and 135. As for pro-oriented zooms, if indeed the 70-200 2.8 VR is coming at Photokina, they have everything covered between 14 and 400 with modern lenses. So the next step is to give those of us who find f/2.8 too slow – even at ISO 6400 – for what we do. For example, I have photographed in emerald minds in Colombia 1900 meters underground. With available light when possible. It’s hot (125º), humid (99%) and cramped (I’m 6’2″) so I need small portable lenses that can see in the dark. The D700 and D3 can see in the dark. They’re just limited by the speed of the lenses I use.

    135 has never been a very popular focal length compared to 105 or 180. They need to make all of their primes AF-S. Non AF-S lenses focus slowly and make a lot more noise. If there’s anything that’s going to bring pros and amateurs back from the likes of Canon is fast primes. Too many slow zooms has been a symptom of their long-standing practice of catering to amateurs rather than pros. What made Nikon tops in the first place was giving pros what they wanted and understanding the amateurs followed by buying what the pros use.

  • http://www.peterlombardi.com Peter Lombardi

    The reasons that most of my employers and fellow photographer friends shoot Canon’s is because of the previously non-existence of a FF sensor (now solved), lower file sizes (meaning overall image dimensions), and a lacking lens catalog.

    Nikon knows these things and they seem to be working towards fixing them, so the more gaps they fill, the more likely photographers will come home to Nikon.
    -peter

  • no-news

    there is no way they replace the 300-600mm fast teles. They are are all rather new, fully adequate (incl. VR) and known to be excellent.

    Why should Nikon discontinue them

  • Craig

    The discontinued tele lenses you see there are the old ones that were discontinued for the new VR ones released last year.

    It’s the 85mm lens that’s interesting right now.

  • Thomas

    Agreed.
    And it was interesting in May 2008 too, when this news broke.

  • freehawk

    I want a new AFS 50mm, the current model is STILL out of stock at B&H

  • rich

    nikons 14-24 and 24-70 produce better results than any primes currently on the market. i’m all for updated primes but unless nikon have acquired several new manufacturing failities, its not gonna happen on a large scale anytime soon.

    the 85/1.4 and 50/1.4 are the ones that need updating but mostly for people like me, (wedding photographer).

    RE: pros: apart from long tele primes used by the sporting pros, most pros stopped using shorter primes quite some time ago. journos are using the 70-200, 24-70 or 17-35. this is not just nikon, this is also canon.

  • http://www.jphotog.com Eric

    Nonsense. I’m a pro. Former photojournalist, and editorial photographer who does location work all over the world. And I want fast primes. Zooms are great, and I’ll use them a lot. But there are times where there is no substitute for a prime lens at 1.4 and Nikon and Canon know it. They just don’t like making lenses that don’t sell to “everybody.” They’ve forgotten their roots.

  • Steven Sow

    the 14-24 and 24-70 are great lenses, and will go down as two Nikkor classics, but there obviously is still a market for fast prime lenses. Canon knows that that’s why their 24, 35, 50, and 85 are produced and sold right along with their 16-35, 24-70, 24-105, 70-200, etc. I’m having a hard time understanding why Nikon can’t do the same thing. Everybody doesn’t want a zoom, there are still a lot of people who still shoot with primes, and a lot of people who would love to compliment their zooms with a fast prime or two.

  • rich

    dont be absolutist. of course i cant speak for everyone. some pros may still use polaroids for all i know.

    the FACT of the matter is that the vast majority of pros do not use primes for their bread and butter. they may have a couple in their kit lens as backup or for particular situations but thats it. even that now is disappearing cos the extra stop or so you gain at 1.4 is made up by the d3′s hi iso anyway.

  • Steven Sow

    The reason that those of use want high speed primes doesn’t have to do with how our cameras handle high ISOs, if you have a D300, 700, or D3, you don’t need a high speed lens, just up your ISOs. The reason why I want a 1.4/1.2 is for that shallow depth of field and selective focus. I think that what we asking for is choice. If you want to have the 14-24, 24-70, 70-200 in your bag and that’s it, that’s cool. But there are some of us who would love to kick it “old school” – 20, 35, 50, 85, 105/135/180 and two bodies – that’s the stuff right there…

  • http://www.jphotog.com Eric

    I’m not the one being an absolutist. You’re the one saying pros don’t use primes any more. And that’s just not true. I’m a pro and have been for over 20 years. And the vast majority of pros I know (from National Geographic on down) use primes on a regular basis.

    Micro lenses, long focal lengths, 14mm, 18mm 20mm 24mm, 28mm, 35mm 50mm, 60mm, 85mm 105mm, Nikon continues to make them and will continue to make them.

    And no matter how fast a camera becomes, like the D3, the lower light you can shoot in and the faster the lenses we need to take photos we never have before. I would argue that with the better cameras it makes sense to use primes even more than before, without the flash that so many use to destroy the character of the light that so many people use because of their limited (f/2.8) apertures.

  • Anonymous

    In the last years, every time I bought a new lens, Nikon released an AFS version of it (80-200/2.8, 300/4). And now even Tokina started to sell lenses with built-in AF motors (yeah I bought the 12-24 from Tokina, a real bargain).

    You know what? I also bought the AF 85 1.4 in June this year. Spectacular lens (even without AFS) – but I guess Nikon will update this item soon. Just to continue this “rule”.

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